{"id":3268,"date":"2019-10-13T17:00:07","date_gmt":"2019-10-13T22:00:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.logikalsolutions.com\/wordpress\/?p=3268"},"modified":"2019-10-13T17:00:07","modified_gmt":"2019-10-13T22:00:07","slug":"that-annoying-seagate-clunking","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.logikalsolutions.com\/wordpress\/information-technology\/that-annoying-seagate-clunking\/","title":{"rendered":"That Annoying Seagate Clunking"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_3270\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3270\" style=\"width: 225px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-3270 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/www.logikalsolutions.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/seagate-backup-plus-hub-standard-position-225x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"225\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.logikalsolutions.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/seagate-backup-plus-hub-standard-position-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/www.logikalsolutions.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/seagate-backup-plus-hub-standard-position.jpg 480w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-3270\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Seagate backup plus hub in standard position.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>If you own a Seagate Backup Plus Hub you know what I&#8217;m talking about. That continuous and annoying clicking clunking sound while idle. This is really annoying. If you have the drive running on a nice solid desk shell the sound becomes amplified enough to keep you awake at night from two rooms away. There have been <a href=\"https:\/\/www.techpowerup.com\/forums\/threads\/seagate-hd-infamous-chiriping-figured-out.164015\/\">many a post on this subject<\/a>. Seagate appears to be hiring Keller MBAs who cut costs without any regard for quality. I&#8217;ve often wondered why this external 6TB was so much cheaper than others. Once I plugged it in I understood. If I hadn&#8217;t needed it for a project I would have walked it right back to Staples. Now I try not to leave it plugged in much. It will have a much better chance of reaching its 5 year MTB (Mean Time Between failure) if it is powered off for at least 4 of those years.<\/p>\n<p>Seagate has habitually made noisy drives as far back as I can remember. When I started in IT during the early 1980s and they came out with the 20 MEG MFM half height it had a cricket chirp while writing. The chirp was almost pleasing. It only occurred during I\/O operations so if you had a program running which would take a long time you didn&#8217;t have to sit there watching or have any kind of completion alarm. When the cricket stopped chirping it was done. Computer cases of the era used to have drive indicator lights which were not up to modern LED standards. This lights would burn out but the chirping cricket told you all was well. In a way it was quaint and comforting.<\/p>\n<p>Today&#8217;s noisy drives are simply inexcusable. The current urban theory is this noise is caused by excessive head parking. You will find many utilities which on a timed interval will copy\/write a small file to the drive then delete it. All of this is designed to stop automatic head parking. I have seen stories from some people with internal Seagate drives causing the problem by using a higher SATA cable rating on a drive. Using a SATA II cable on a SATA I drive is rumored to cause this issue. As a rule I don&#8217;t buy Seagate internal drives. I&#8217;ve had really good luck with Western Digital spinning drives and Samsung SSDs so I&#8217;m sticking with them until they screw me. I used to have really good luck with Hitachi hard drives but they are no longer in the drive business.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_3272\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3272\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-3272\" src=\"https:\/\/www.logikalsolutions.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/seagate-backup-plus-hub-feet-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.logikalsolutions.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/seagate-backup-plus-hub-feet-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.logikalsolutions.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/seagate-backup-plus-hub-feet.jpg 640w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-3272\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Seagate backup plus hub feet<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Don&#8217;t take issue with my fingering MBAs cutting costs without regard for quality. I never hear a fan in the enclosure and I bet that is because there isn&#8217;t one. They put the little rubber feet on the bottom with air holes and vented the top. Let&#8217;s forget for a moment just how short the rubber feet are and the fact they provide a very tiny air gap between the bottom of the enclosure and your desk. God forbid you have this on some kind of soft desktop blotter. This is the worst position to run the drive in. Sitting like that on a very hard (commercial grade) desk shell it transfers every head park through the shell, into the echo chamber below.<\/p>\n<p>I had forgotten about this annoyance after having been home for a couple of months, but I had need of the drive again. At some point I will be constructing a 4-6TB database on an internal drive and I wanted another big drive to write some log files to. This was the biggest external drive I currently had. Using it for the database drive would probably kill it given the projected I\/O rates. Fine for logging though.<\/p>\n<p>Honestly, the MBAs and product designers duped all of us into running this drive in the worst possible position. Of course you are going to put the rubber feet on the desk! Boy is that ever a bad idea!<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_3274\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3274\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-3274\" src=\"https:\/\/www.logikalsolutions.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/seagate-backup-plus-hub-flat-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.logikalsolutions.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/seagate-backup-plus-hub-flat-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.logikalsolutions.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/seagate-backup-plus-hub-flat.jpg 640w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-3274\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Seagate backup plus hub flat<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>After I set mine flat, it got quiet. Maybe the heads, which once parked for idle shouldn&#8217;t unpark themselves just for exercise are still excessively parking, but I don&#8217;t hear it. Perhaps it will die a heat death before the age of 5? I don&#8217;t care. At least I&#8217;m not being clicked and clunked to the point of insanity!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If you own a Seagate Backup Plus Hub you know what I&#8217;m talking about. That continuous and annoying clicking clunking sound while idle. This is really annoying. If you have the drive running on a nice solid desk shell the sound becomes amplified enough to keep you awake at night from two rooms away. There have been many a post on this subject. Seagate appears to be hiring Keller MBAs who cut costs without any &hellip; <a title=\"That Annoying Seagate Clunking\" class=\"bnm-read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.logikalsolutions.com\/wordpress\/information-technology\/that-annoying-seagate-clunking\/\"><span class=\"screen-reader-text\">That Annoying Seagate Clunking<\/span>Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":3270,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1309,3,4],"tags":[1758,1757,157,1756,182],"class_list":["post-3268","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-experience","category-information-technology","category-thank-you-sir-may-i-have-another","tag-hitachi","tag-keller-mbas","tag-samsung","tag-seagate-backup-plus-hub","tag-western-digital","bnm-entry"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.5 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>That Annoying Seagate Clunking &#8211; 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He quickly became a consultant and president of Logikal Solutions, a software consulting firm specializing in OpenVMS application and C++\/Qt touchscreen\/embedded Linux development. Early in his career he became involved in what is now called cross platform development. Given the dearth of useful books on the subject he ventured into the world of professional author in 1995 writing the first of the \"Zinc It!\" book series for John Gordon Burke Publisher, Inc. A decade later he released a massive (nearly 800 pages) tome \"The Minimum You Need to Know to Be an OpenVMS Application Developer\" which tried to encapsulate the essential skills gained over what was nearly a 20 year career at that point. From there \"The Minimum You Need to Know\" book series was born. Three years later he wrote his first novel \"Infinite Exposure\" which got much notice from people involved in the banking and financial security worlds. Some of the attacks predicted in that book have since come to pass. While it was not originally intended to be a trilogy, it became the first book of \"The Earth That Was\" trilogy: Infinite Exposure Lesedi - The Greatest Lie Ever Told John Smith - Last Known Survivor of the Microsoft Wars When he is not consulting Roland Hughes posts about technology and sometimes politics on his blog. 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